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Darkside Rainbow Live Webcast: 01.20.08

by Adrien-Luc Sanders

photo courtesy of stylesr1 on sxc.huFor replay of the webcast you can either listen below or download the full MP3 (including musical interludes) here. [Side note: you are listening to a recording and not a live broadcast, so please do not IM me while listening to the recording. Unless I'm broadcasting live, I will not respond.] Sorry that the audio quality on this one isn’t that great; the mic and computer were doing something really odd and really annoying, so now it sounds like a broadcast on the radio band of the dead. I’d have edited out the pauses and the frequent rounds of cursing while trying to fiddle with it, but then the chat log wouldn’t make any sense, now would it? You can amuse yourselves laughing at my annoyed spluttering, at least.

You have joined room: DR_Live_Webcast
Welcome to our live chat room!
Sihaya has joined.
hikarukujo: Hello!
Sihaya: Hi
Sihaya: This time I made it here from the start xD
Indikaze has joined.
Sihaya: Hi Indikaze
hikarukujo: Hehe. Yeah, it’ll be more fun when I’m not here all alone
Indikaze: Huzzah, I remembered, this time!
Sihaya: This music is wonderful =O
Indikaze: And hello. ^_^
Indikaze: FF music is awesome. <_ <
Lynn1065 has joined.
Indikaze: Hi!
Sihaya: Hi Lynn =)
hikarukujo: Hello, Indikaze!
hikarukujo: Hi Lynn!
Lynn1065: *squeaks* nya! Hello!
hikarukujo: *laughs*
Sihaya: *applaus*
Indikaze: Hi Adri!
Lynn1065: *puts down my "YAY ADRI!" poster*
hikarukujo: HEY!
Lynn1065: voice is going all wonky or me o.o
Sihaya: Am I the only one with a metaly sound to this?
Indikaze: No
Lynn1065: no, i'm getting it too
Sihaya: me too, it's horrid
hikarukujo: No, it sounds funny to me, too.
Lynn1065: "I'm sorry Dave"
Sihaya: I can't understand a word
Lynn1065: i hear randomness!!
Lynn1065: o.o
Sihaya: =(
Sihaya: it's like zapping all over a radio
Lynn1065: someone poke him!
Sihaya: someone IM him and tell him this
Sihaya: This can't be the cat >_>
Lynn1065: o.o
Indikaze: I heard the IM buzzer go off
Lynn1065: me too
Lynn1065: wow
Sihaya: Okay, I understood that *BLUSHES*
Indikaze: Aww…
hikarukujo: It’s pretty creepy sounding
hikarukujo: Technical difficulty!
Sihaya: It’s better now, I think…
hikarukujo: Sorry, had to tell you it was messing up.
Sihaya: I don’t have any interference anymore
Lynn1065: me either
Indikaze: Sounds better
hikarukujo: Sounds good now.
Sihaya: oh, wait… It’s starting again
Indikaze: Mostly
hikarukujo: Every third word.
Lynn1065: *nods*
Sihaya: yes, it is
Sihaya: maybe
Lynn1065: it sounds like the trailer to an alien movie >.>
Lynn1065: rawr!
Sihaya: I’ve never seen alien
hikarukujo: Yes, Adri, it goes better then dies
Sihaya: or Aliens
Lynn1065: my dad’s an alien
Lynn1065: ^////^
Sihaya: we’ll manage xD
Sihaya: White nooooise =o
Sihaya: you are NOT
hikarukujo: Hear, hear!
Lynn1065: lol
Sihaya: roflmao
hikarukujo: Masochism.
Indikaze: Because you’re sexy?
Sihaya: LOL
Lynn1065: haha
hikarukujo: Sounds painful. Kittens?
Lynn1065: i made that analogy once(analogy?)
hikarukujo: This is going to give me nightmares. That sound is creepy.
Sihaya: He’s so wonderfully honest, isn’t he?
MizukiTHPS has joined.
Indikaze: It’s comforting
Indikaze: Hello Mizuki!
Sihaya: Hi Mizuki =)
Lynn1065: o.o big sound go boom!
MizukiTHPS: Hello ^.^
Lynn1065: hi Mizuki ^^
hikarukujo: Hi Mizuki!
MizukiTHPS: the audio problems, they scare me >.< Indikaze: Yeah
hikarukujo: That's it, I'm buying him a new mic.
MizukiTHPS: damn a religion conversation, I geuss I should be thankful that there are audio problems :p
Sihaya: please
hikarukujo: He'll kill me, but I'm doing it.
Lynn1065: My grandma says i need to find faith and really know something before I can 'assum'e I'm ready for something. Only because I read romance novels and like painting pentacles on my walls
MizukiTHPS: Hikaru, we would give you a great many thanks
MizukiTHPS: Lol
MizukiTHPS: Hikaru doet!!!!
hikarukujo: So buying it.
Lynn1065: i barely use my mic...no one to talk to through mic T.T
Sihaya: A new computer then
MizukiTHPS: A new computer it is.
Lynn1065: new computer!!
MizukiTHPS: Or a really expensive program
hikarukujo: Then I'll buy him a new laptop.
Lynn1065: we've got a computer we don't want!
Lynn1065: it works perfectly, i'm just afraid my brother will destroy it
Sihaya: All mom's ask that xD
MizukiTHPS: CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR FUN
Lynn1065: lol
hikarukujo: No comment.
Indikaze: It's not polite though.
hikarukujo: penispenispenis
Lynn1065: x3
Indikaze: I can't say it without giggling, so I sympathize
Lynn1065: my friend is scared of that word too!!
Lynn1065: Pamela: I like cock!
Lynn1065: once she said that on the bus after we bugged her
Sihaya: They don't have those here =P
hikarukujo: Shop there often.
Lynn1065: we don't have any here...
Indikaze: I pass through on the way to the EB. Really.
hikarukujo: See how he abuses me?
Lynn1065: or Sacs(sp?)
hikarukujo: Saks, Lynn.
Indikaze: Aw, I envy you Kujo <_<
Lynn1065: see how stuck i am in this city!? i don't even know how to spell places
Indikaze: Is the silence intentional?
Indikaze: Probably not.
Lynn1065: silencio *waves wand*
hikarukujo: From me?
Indikaze: Wait, it's back
MizukiTHPS: fun noises!
hikarukujo: This is scary.
Lynn1065: OMG!!! *stabs the noises*
MizukiTHPS has left.
hikarukujo: Uh oh, there goes Mizuki
Indikaze: Same height as me!
Sihaya: It's giving me a headache
Sihaya: Queerzilla is kinda cute xD
hikarukujo: Spandex with a purple Q? QUEERMAN TO SAVE THE DAY!
Sihaya: AAAAh >_< Adrien-Luc: I don't know what the hell's going on with the interference, guys; sorry.
Indikaze: Shit, I'm getting lag. >_< Sihaya: no problem
Adrien-Luc: There was something I did last time to fix it. It's just not working this time.
Sihaya: the volume of the music was twice as high as the talky bit xD
hikarukujo: Yeah, I jumped a bit.
LEssa has joined.
Adrien-Luc: Yeah, I have the mic turned down really low to try to cut down the interference. Sorry.
Sihaya: Lessaaaaaa =)
hikarukujo: Lessa's here!
LEssa: HIIIIIIIII! I almost forgot!
Adrien-Luc: ~laughs~ So no one's going to IM, huh? Mean people. Hey, Lessa.
Sihaya: I'm saving the logs to a wordpad file just in case, btw
LEssa: I'm here at the hospital with my mama, so I have an excuse
Sihaya: I don't have IM =P
LEssa: She's here too. *g*
Adrien-Luc: Ne? Is Barbara okay?
hikarukujo: Hehe, he's having me do the same, Sihaya.
LEssa: Yeah, she was having some chest pains this morning, but it wasn't a heart attack, we figure it was stress. she's doing fine.
Adrien-Luc: Good.
Indikaze: I could barely hear *and* I seem to be laggier than you gues >_< hikarukujo: Tell her we hope she feels better
Adrien-Luc: Oh shit, song's almost over on my end. Stupid server delay. ~flips back over~
LEssa: She waved and says she does. The'll probalby cut her lose here in a couple hours
Sihaya: I really like the songs you're playing today =)
Lynn1065: *is so close to crying at the crapshit that's going on today* >.< Indikaze: And are things going through from me?
Sihaya: CONGRATULATIOOOONS =D
hikarukujo: Huzzah!
LEssa: she's all "Awwwwwwwwww!!!" thanks Adri!
Sihaya: Lynn, are you okay?
Indikaze: I think I'm going crazy.
Lynn1065: No, me not okay, me was looking forward to this and it's screwing up! This was gonna be happy time for me! Cause I actually made it here but I suppose not! *stops being a little baby* thank you..
Kaine has joined.
Sihaya: *hugs Lynn*
hikarukujo: Hi Kaine!
Sihaya: Hi Kaine =)
Lynn1065: *sniffle* thanks Sihaya
Lynn1065: hello Kaine
Kaine: Hi. -.- *smacks Java*
Indikaze has left.
hikarukujo: Uh oh, there goes Indikaze.
Indikaze has joined.
Kaine: ;~;
Indikaze: Okay, am I back?
hikarukujo: Hello Indikazw!
hikarukujo: Damn, slepping, Hikaru.
Kaine: Yup. Hello. :3
hikarukujo: GAH! Spelling.
Kaine: XD
Indikaze: Great, now every silence is paranoia-inducing
Sihaya: I can't copy stuff anymore =s
Kaine: o.o?
LEssa: FYI, i'm not listening right now, just reading the chat, cuz we just got a roommate. heh
Kaine:
LEssa: I'll listen later
hikarukujo: Don't worry, Sihaya, I've got it copied.
hikarukujo: Can do!
Sihaya: Aaaaaw, that was so cuuuuute
hikarukujo: *giggles*
Kaine: <3
Indikaze: Okay, I think I got rid of the excess lag
Lynn1065: I'm imagining this as a climactic message to the end of a great space/futuristic movie o.o
Indikaze: Why does live internet communication always take years off my life?
Sihaya: same with me xD
Sihaya: It's the excitement
Adrien-Luc: ~falls over~ ...goddammit stupid bloody effin'...GAH. ~strangles the computer and Windows Media Encoder~
Sihaya: oooh, great songs today!
Lynn1065: *giggles*
Sihaya: Adire, you did great! Really
LEssa: *Cracks up* poor Adri
Lynn1065: i'm....gonna put this to an awesome anime and make a special AMV for you adri x3
Sihaya: It think this took years of his life as well xD
Adrien-Luc: ...wha? You're gonna--wha?! No! ~hides behind something~
Adrien-Luc: Oh, I'm already dead.
Adrien-Luc: The lag just hasn't caught up.
Lynn1065: *giggles* it'll be awesome!
hikarukujo: It did have that kind of Battlestar Gallactica-esqe feel to it, sitting ona freighter deep in space and listening to a message broadcast over a million miles.
Sihaya: ^^
Kaine: X3
Indikaze: Heh
Sihaya: that's a nice comparison right there ^^
Kaine: You seem to have the most interesting taste in music. *pokes it*
Adrien-Luc: It's going to take me forever to edit out the "What? Bad connection? Fuck! Fucksticks! No!" ...or should I leave it in?
LEssa: Leave it in!
Kaine: Oh, just leave it. :3
Sihaya: if you can take out the interference, take it out
Sihaya: or it won't make any sense :p
Adrien-Luc: Kaine, I picked this song deliberately, since I used the "The revolution will be televised" line, warping the original "The revolution will not be televised."
Indikaze: Leave it in. I don't think you can do much with the signal except rerecording
Lynn1065: I will make an AMV and e-mail it to you :3
Adrien-Luc: ...I'm scared now.
Lynn1065: Rawr >D
Indikaze: I wanna see!
Kaine: Can I see, Lynn?
Lynn1065: i haven’t done it yet < .<
Adrien-Luc: -_-;; Let me know how it goes. I can't stand the sound of my own voice, so I won't be watching/listening.
Kaine: Well, yes, but when you do.
Lynn1065: i need the whole thing he did just now to make it
Lynn1065: if Adri wants
Lynn1065: I usually don't make my AMV's with anyone's pictures or voice unless they give me permission
Kaine: I'm the same way. Ever try watching yourself on tv? Ai, gods.
Kaine: *ded*
Sihaya: I'm giving up copying, every few times it stops copying new stuff T_T
Sihaya: I hope you have better luck, Hikaru
hikarukujo: Got everything so far.
Lynn1065: UNDERWORLD ON TV!
Kaine: -.-
Lynn1065: *glues face to television screen*
Kaine: I cannot believe Puscifer worked on that soundtrack.
Lynn1065: Vampires tickle my pickle and boil my egg x3
Kaine: I love Maynard, but I'm uncertain about his taste in movies.
Sihaya: oooooh, Kate Beckinsale *_*
Kaine: ...
Kaine: Orly?
Sihaya: prettiest girl in the WORLD
Lynn1065: has anyone read Twilight by Stephenie Meyer?
Sihaya: no, sorry
Adrien-Luc: I almost bought it from the discount book rack in Wal-Mart this morning.
Lynn1065: omg go read it!! It's one of the top books ever right now and they're making a movie with the leads being Kristen Stewer and...the guy who played Cedric int he 4th Harry Potter movie
Kaine: ...I'm not sure that helps, somehow. o.o
Lynn1065: It's a very good book, it really is, and isn't one of those cheesy young adult romances, it's really good
Lynn1065: the website let's you read the first chapter for free
Lynn1065: would you like the link?
Kaine: *looks it up*
Kaine: Sure. o.o
Sihaya: It's nice to have so many people here =)
Adrien-Luc: Last time it was just Hikaru until the thing was completely over.
hikarukujo: What, I wasn't good company?
Kaine: At stepheniemeyer.com, you mean, Lynn?
Indikaze: Yeah, I tend to lose track of time over weekends
Kaine: *couldn't get the chatroom to work* o.o
Adrien-Luc: No comment, Hikaru.
Sihaya: I couldn't get that stupic plugin to download Dx
Sihaya: that says it all =P
Kaine: :>
Sihaya: So is that maybe still a maybe, or will it be until you move? =P
Lynn1065: yes
hikarukujo: Asshol. *pouts*
Lynn1065: but it doesn’t seem to have the first chapter on the site…it has the first chapters for the other books though
Kaine: the dude cast as Edward has an interesting face…
Lynn1065: he’s not hot enough to be Edward!!!
hikarukujo: Helps if I can spell…
Kaine: …
Kaine: He has nice hair?
Lynn1065: traitor!!
Indikaze: Who’s Edward?
Lynn1065: *is major fan girl for Edward*
Kaine: Not really my type, but kinda pretty…
Lynn1065: character in Twilight
Kaine: I don’t even know who Edward is!
Lynn1065: I <3 Alice more than Edward
Indikaze: Main protagonist?
Lynn1065: Edward and Bella yes
Lynn1065: Alice is Edward’s ’sister’ you could say
Kaine: Speaking of pretty boys, though…
Kaine: *distracted by new yaoi*
Sihaya: lol
Lynn1065: *giggles*
Indikaze: Whatcha watching?
hikarukujo: Oi!
Kaine: I ran into creepy yaoi fangirls at the mall.
Kaine: No, reading.
Sihaya: I don’t suppose anyone here plays Guild Wars? =)
Indikaze: No, although I’ve been tempted
Kaine: YES
Kaine: ME!
Kaine:
Kaine: Actually…
Sihaya: REALLY? =D
Lynn1065: *talking to self, rocking back and forth with my Twilight, New Moon, and my two copies of Eclipse* Sexy vampires…
Kaine: Well, technically I don’t have it anymore. >:|
Indikaze: If there were any MMORPGs I would play, it would probably be Guild Wars
Kaine: And my character’s probably been deleted. >:|
Kaine: Mm. I play a couple.
Kaine: Like Ragnarok Online. :3
Indikaze: How do you have time for MULTIPLE MMOs?
Kaine: XD
Lynn1065: my computer is crap…i need a new one to play games
hikarukujo: I play Spider Solitare…
Kaine: There are a ton that I play, but I lose interest/become obsessed with them all separately.
Kaine: There are a ton that I play, but I lose interest/become obsessed with them all separately.
Kaine: At this point, I have no interest in any of them. But I have RO, GW, Flyff, Pangya, Gunz, MapleStory, and Gunbound.
Indikaze: Doesn’t Spider Solitaire have a security breach in it?
Kaine: Off the top of my head.
Sihaya: If you ever start playing GW again, add Sihaya Syme
Adrien-Luc: o.O I bet I’m the only one in here who plays Anarchy Online. When my stupid computer will let it work.
Kaine: *writes it down* Shiny. Now we just need to buy/re-steal it from our friend.
Sihaya: Do you have to pay for that?
Adrien-Luc: Completely free.
Adrien-Luc: Download and go.
Sihaya: niiice
Kaine: *looks it up, too*
Indikaze: Hey, I’d try something out for that
Indikaze: Although I’m usually too antisocial for MMOs
Sihaya: is it RPG or strategy? *sucks at strategy*
LEssa: hahah. The new roommate just shut the curtain, guess mom and I are too noisy *L*
Kaine: Oh, I don’t play with PEOPLE.
Adrien-Luc: That’s why I love Anarchy. People leave me the hell alone and let me kill things.
Kaine: Niiiice. My kinda game.
Indikaze: Sounds awesome.
Lynn1065: death!
Adrien-Luc: It’s kind of RPG-ish, Sihaya. Quest-based, etc…there’s some strategy, but it’s basically whatever you want it to be.
hikarukujo: Keeps him from hitting me…
Lynn1065: *stabs things*
Sihaya: GW let’s you choose
Adrien-Luc: You make yourself sound so abused, Hikaru.
Sihaya: you can play it all by yourself with henchmen
Sihaya: or with other people
Kaine: Yeah. That’s what I love about it - your own personal map.
Kaine: I played a necromancer/ranger, so I could have cute dead things AND cute living things!
Kaine: <3
Sihaya: Necro Mesmer myself ^^ Life drainer
Sihaya: I love being evil online
Kaine: I like mesmers, but never got the chance to play with them…
Kaine: Me too!
Sihaya: because I couldn’t be IRL if I tried >_>
hikarukujo: It’s not as much fun as being evil in real life…more dead puppies.
Kaine: And sezzy. Of course.
Kaine: *twitch*
Sihaya: ^^
hikarukujo: Hehe.
Kaine: I’d smack you if I knew you better. >:|
Adrien-Luc: …Hikaru…haven’t I compared you to a puppy before? ~raises a brow~
hikarukujo: Yes, Kitten, you have.
Adrien-Luc: …..
Adrien-Luc: ………………
Adrien-Luc: I. Hate. You.
hikarukujo: *runs*
Lynn1065: *snickers*
Indikaze: Aw…
Kaine: X3
Sihaya: *glee*
Lynn1065: everyone! quick! stare at them till they get awkward! *stares*
Sihaya: that maaaaybe is looking aaaawfully shallow xD
Indikaze: It’s okay, Sihaya, we were all thinking it
Adrien-Luc: …wha? What maybe? ~must not be remembering something here~
Sihaya: Sooometimes I like being not-so-subtle xD
Sihaya: Your questionaire
Sihaya: you both said ‘maybe’ on the relationship question
Adrien-Luc: ……
Adrien-Luc: Uh. Did we now?
Sihaya: yes ^^
hikarukujo: *shifty eyes*
Sihaya: ^^
Adrien-Luc: Er. ~clears his throat~ Well. Coincidence, I’m sure.
Lynn1065: oooh!!! you’ve been served!
Indikaze: …
hikarukujo: Yup, pure coincidence.
LEssa: ok, my battery is almost dead and I’m losing the thread of convo - I’ll talk to ya’ll later though!
Lynn1065: speaking of served…I shall upload the video of my play up on wednesday on youtube, wewt :o
Sihaya: Coincidences don’t exist, I say =)
hikarukujo: *backs away, slowly*
Sihaya: bye Lessa!
Sihaya: play?
hikarukujo: Bye Lessa!
Lynn1065: see you Lessa :3
Adrien-Luc: Ja, Lessa - and Barbara, over in the background. ~changse the subject~
Kaine: Buhbyes, Lessa. :3
Lynn1065: i’m gonna be in a play tuesday
LEssa has left.
Adrien-Luc: ~makes typos~ Is that the one you showed the clip of before, Lynn?
Kaine: I’m sorry, Lynn. o.o
Kaine: I mean.
Kaine: orly?
Lynn1065: no, that was a play for christmas, in this next one i’m a mouse
Indikaze: *hits Kaine with a mallet*
Lynn1065: you’ll see ^^
Lynn1065: hehe
Indikaze: Er, reflex.
Kaine: ;~;
Adrien-Luc: …a mouse.
Kaine: XD
Lynn1065: one of the three blinde mice
Adrien-Luc: Huh.
Lynn1065: we’re suing the farmers wife for assault and battery and emotional damages
Kaine: …Is it weird that that sounds familiar?
Lynn1065: we also talk in that annoying surfer boy accent
Adrien-Luc: OW. I should take my earphones off when uploading…when the mp3 broadcast finished uploading, AceFTP nearly deafened me. Jesus monkey snot.
Lynn1065: no
Lynn1065: because when our director showed it to us i thought I’d seen it before :P
hikarukujo: No, his last name was Christ.
Lynn1065: lol
Adrien-Luc: I prefer Jesus monkey snot. Has a nicer ring to it.
Lynn1065: my friend says “you suck hairy monkey balls”
Kaine: I prefer Jesus H. Christmas, meself.
Lynn1065: and that bit about tickling pickles and boiling eggs
Sihaya: lol
Kaine: …
Kaine: So.
Kaine: I’m getting five Neil Gaiman novels on Tuesday.
hikarukujo: I use “donkey balls”, Lynn, in that statement.
Kaine: *excited*
Indikaze: That’s a reason to celebrate!
Kaine: Wow, me too, Hikaru. o.o
hikarukujo: Just how I learned it
Kaine: Yeah. Gratis, even. :3
Lynn1065: *claps* …who’s Neil Gaiman…?
Kaine: !!!
Kaine: Neil. Frickin’. Gaiman. Dude.
Kaine: You need to be reading better stuff, clearly. :P
hikarukujo: *wonders who he is, too*
Indikaze: He’s God.
Indikaze: Well, okay.
Indikaze: He’s actually just an awesome fantasy comic book guy/novelist
Lynn1065: I dunno if we’ve got Gaiman in our school library…
Kaine: He’s an adorable British author who does some really amazing, profound, and funny stuff.
Kaine: Er, prolly not.
Indikaze: Maybe…
Lynn1065: I only check out books from school cause it’s easier to remember when to turn them in
Sihaya: Kaine, where are you from?
Kaine: I don’t check books out. =/
Kaine: o.o
Kaine: New England?
Lynn1065: his mom
Lynn1065: < .<
Adrien-Luc: Hey, guys, I need to close down the chat room soon so I can stick up the broadcast and the logs in place of what's up right now.
Kaine: Massachusetts, specifically.
Kaine: ....
Indikaze: 'k
Sihaya: oh ^^
Kaine: Thank you, Lynn.
Sihaya: cause you used a dutch word earlier xD
Sihaya: Sweet dreams everyone!
hikarukujo: Later, guys!
Lynn1065: your welcome Kaine...? ;-;
Indikaze: Night all, then!
Kaine: Er...Well. I use a lot of things.
Lynn1065: bye everyone!
Sihaya: I'm going straigth to bed
Kaine: But yeah. See you guys! :3
Sihaya: hugs and kisses!
Lynn1065: i'm gonna fight with my ex, wewt :o
Lynn1065: *gives everyone cookies*
Adrien-Luc: Thanks for tuning in, everyone. Goodnight.
Sihaya: good luck
Lynn1065: night peeps
Sihaya: thank you, Adrien =)
Sihaya: bye bye
Indikaze has left.
Sihaya has left.
Kaine has left.
Lynn1065: how do i leave? <.<
hikarukujo: Close the window.
Adrien-Luc: Or hit the red arrows.
Lynn1065: pff..thanks! ^^;;
Lynn1065 has left.

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